=trivium-broken1 said:i definitely think they should do shogun as an encore. like fake everyone out by ending the set with pull harder then wait like 2 mins... and then come out with shogun. would be legendary.

SHOGUN FUCKING RULES! It never gets boring to me, its my ringtone and i listen to it @ least once a day. When they played in charleston, SC, me and about 10 of my buddies chanted for Shogun and matt said it wasnt ready yet which blows but @ the same time, if you record something it needs to be played live. even thru all the changes, it NEEDS TO BE PLAYED LIVE. when they come back to america thay need to play this song. they need a full set, they need to end with this and do gunshot and pull harder as the encore, bcuz well thats just the way the night should end. if any member of trivium reads this please tell me when i can or if i ever can expect to hear it live. PLEASE??????!!!!!!!!!

Na, i'd rather 2-3 other songs than Shogun, i just dont find it that great....

Maybe a shorter version would be more practical, like try and weave a way from the 2nd chorus to the solos, or as said earlier the 1st half in a medley would be cool.

I'm guessing they probably will be playing it eventually but probably not as a regular thing... like they did with 'The Crusade'.

Yeah, that seems the most likely situation. I'd love to hear Shogun played live in its entirety, though.

I would love to hear the song played live in its entirety aswell.When you are at a concert 12 minutes flies by very fast.If I had to pick which one of the four from Shogun they haven't played yet, it would be this one.

Dude...I couldn't agree more I have all their albums on my ipod and shogun surpasses them all it's hands down my favorite song by them and their my favorite band. It's simply a masterpiece.